Re: Seeks Improved Efficency: Redundant Query Data
Readers, here we have an fine illustration of nothing unusual, but a User seeking assistance from a so-called /support community/.
As the author of the thread; he who sought to establish discourse with other PHP programmers, I'd like to express my disappointment in the outcome.
1.) Having spent NO small amount of time in preparation; research concerning where should my query best be placed (eg. Forum Categories; sub-categories, etc.); the subsequent authorship of the query, time spent in formatting with \[ code ] tags/ arrangement for semantic legibility, proofreading, editing, etc., I received a singular response from a user who-- clearly, on investigation of his/ her own HTML resources-- knows very little about /Real World/ PHP (eg. look at the guys HTML-- it is atrocious; an abominable example of /HOW NOT to author MARKUP/.
2.) This is the PHP sub-section of the MySQL community forum. PHP, as we know, is a recursive acronym meaning / Hypertext Preprocessor/. If a respondent is clearly incapabale of authoring his own HTML in an exemplary manner, then-- before attempting to offer advisory-- owes it to him/herself, and the community which he/she attempts to advise, to go-back-to-school and learn how to author HTML markup beyond the archaic approach, apparent in his own work (Eg. the respondent, in attempt to solicit his/ her own media-for-sale, provided a useless reply, to my original post, pointing to a dreadful artifact; HTML soup; something i'd liken to the Markup generated by MM DreamW___ circa v DW 2.x-- sure, it may be HTML v3.0 compliant, but this is a PHP programmers’ forum.
3.) I am flabberghasted by the audacity of the respondent; that he/she believes his/her response is appropriate. Such participation is counter-productive; offensive; a poor reflection upon MySQL; Oracle; this Users’ Community, at large (eg. reflects poorly upon you, the fellow user), and does nothing to encourage my continued participation (hence this reply, a farewell of sorts, for nothing good came of my effort; my seeking help returned nothing) The respondent provided most ambiguous generalities; URL's, off-site to his/her portal feat excerpts from that book he/she is attempting to sell. With great difficulty, one might argue the respondent’s assistance is topic-relevant, but only in the sense that, indeed, his/her book focuses on SQL, and my Initial query concerns use of a MySQL database with PHP. So, from the very start, the respondent is interested in one thing: book sales.
A. Shilling Wares under the Guise of Benevolent Aide : There is nothing more irritating than so-called forum participants who-- so transparent in their methods-- provide nothing but a link to his / her own text; a book he or she is trying to sell. No subjective discourse is engaged-- only a URL, pointing to his/ her private web site which is a portal for his/her book sales.
B. The respondents concern, generic as it is, and not in anyone's interest but his/ her own, clearly took so little time in the examinatin of my query, his/her proposed /solution/ is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand; my query concerns PHP, yet the respondent addresses nothing of PHP but SQL; irrelevant SQL topics (Eg. Normalization, vs. Query building)
C. The respondent goes on to flame-bait, again addressing irrelevant semantics
D. Clearly, the respondent is not qualified (Eg. look at the HTML on the archive at the URL he/she provided in the first reply)
I reported the User for his/her counter-intuitive participation, and flame-bait rhetoric. I do not care what is/ was the outcome of it, but that User is not your friend, clearly. Perhaps, if a discourse of subjugation is established, where his/ her ego is stroked in a manner pleasing to that respondent, perhaps other users-- unlike myself-- have found his/her participation to have some value.
In conclusion, I want to remind the reader: You, and I are NOT obliged to suffer this sort of treatment; to be expected to tolorate flam-bait rhetoric; to patronize; engage discourse with Users whose motives are self-serving.
I encourage the reader, examine this thread; how it did unfold to arrive at this complaint. Read the first repondent (the only respondent: a disappontment; an insult to our intelligence, and hard work as PHP Developers wishing to produce Web Standards compliant applications; semantically relevant markup, etc. [eg., is this the only person who participates in the PHP forum? a User who solicits some of the worst HTML i've ever seen? What happened to this place?]
Readers, if you are experiencing the sort of treatment, anything similar to MY experience: It is YOUR responsibility to complain. Everyone must begin somewhere: New users should not feel threatened; subject to harrassment by the rhetoric of hostile respondents (such as the second response I received in this thread-- the flame-bait response). It's simply NOT worth your time. Look at how much time i've wasted, here, on this issue. Abhorrant; pathetic; irritating; unnerving, and ENCOURAGMENT FOR SEEKING AN ALTERNATIVE SOFTWARE; a more friendly community prepared to engage in educational discourse!
At the first sign; sensation of flame-baiting, report the User. Don't stand for abuse. And leave the community. Find a better place to expend your energy, as you try to learn to better your programming. (Eg. sarcasm; phrases such as /what is ____ ____ ?/, important to identify as a personal attack, typically stand-out from other texts, for such flame-bait attacks are easy to identify: they do not address the technical specifics, unique to the Programming language; topic at hand)
Regards. Good luck, readers.
Sincerely, disappointed.
user is Author of NoviceNotes.Net
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2013 07:26PM by stanley tweedle.